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IRC log for #minetest-delta, 2012-07-08

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06:42 cy1 SUCCESS
06:42 cy1 well uh
06:42 cy1 it works, at any rate
06:42 cy1 and I'm tired of looking for problems
06:43 cy1 https://gitorious.org/minetest-cy/minetest-core
06:43 cy1 minetest with not just public key authentication, but PGP support!
06:43 cy1 minus the WoT but that sucks anyway
06:44 cy1 Older clients work with it. Backwards compatible protocol changes and all.
06:44 Calinou <29cy1> minetest with not just public key authentication, but PGP support!
06:44 cy1 Except old clients (not the gpgme enabled ones) see player names as the key fingerprint.
06:44 Calinou cool
06:44 Calinou does it work? is it user-friendly?
06:45 cy1 Works for me!
06:45 cy1 It's... about as user friendly as PGP can safely get.
06:45 Calinou this means not user friendly :P
06:45 Calinou is a new dep required?
06:45 cy1 Yes.
06:45 cy1 GPGME
06:45 cy1 (and gnupg)
06:45 Calinou can it be used on windows without having to bitch around with external stuff?
06:45 Calinou :/
06:45 Calinou if no, it won't be added in official game
06:45 cy1 It can in... theory be used on Windows.
06:46 cy1 Well your official game sucks. :p
06:46 Calinou noone uses forks, sorry
06:46 cy1 But seriously I don't have a Windows box to get all the .exe files and .dlls stuffed into a dumbass installer.
06:46 * Calinou says no to installers
06:47 cy1 Someone else can do that.
06:47 cy1 No to installers, but yes to Windows? :p
06:47 Calinou because drivers and vendor locks
06:47 Calinou :|
06:47 cy1 Laaaaaaaame
06:47 Calinou why lame?
06:47 cy1 Vendor lockin is lame.
06:48 cy1 Drivers are lame.
06:48 Calinou ah
06:48 cy1 Entire team is lame!
06:48 Calinou to circumvent vendor locks, the only thing you can do is a VM :/
06:48 Calinou doesn't solve the driver problems
06:48 Calinou - proprietary ones tend to suck
06:48 Calinou - free ones are slow, only support opengl 2.1
06:48 cy1 Well, not legally.
06:48 cy1 heh, yeah
06:49 cy1 god I hate video card industry...
06:49 Calinou same
06:49 cy1 the politics are worse than cocaine.
06:49 cy1 worse.
06:49 cy1 than cocaine.
06:49 Calinou cocaine sucks :P
06:49 cy1 cocaine is a hell of a drug
06:49 Calinou good thing it isn't allowed in most countries, fortunately
06:49 Calinou *topic changes successfully*
06:49 cy1 but video cards man, they'll shoot you for trying to learn just what they are.
06:50 cy1 nobody's defending crack's "intellectual property"
06:50 cy1 there's no trade secrets
06:50 cy1 you just grow the plant and crystallize it until it's at semi-lethal levels
06:51 cy1 I look at a video card and I'm like "Oh yeah, that's a resistor. And that's a capacitor. Woo nelly. I can't tell shit about this device."
06:51 cy1 nobody can grow their own video card x_x
06:51 cy1 no matter how addictive it is
06:52 cy1 it's difficult and the only people who know how get concrete shoes if they spill the beans
06:54 cy1 aaaaaand yeah so PGP and I'll work on Windows support sometime next incarnation
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11:08 art h
11:08 art hi*
11:09 art i made simple PM function ... is still not finished but it work's already,
11:14 art i did'n have idea how it suppose to look like so right now to send pm is requaied to posses rights to shout
11:15 obo425 :D
11:16 art and sending command is:
11:16 art "name_player" message
11:17 art is this will be all right ?
11:17 obo425 hey do you play minetest on a server?
11:18 obo425 or minetest blockplanet
11:18 obo425 do you it play
11:18 art no ... is there is some server ?
11:19 art i mean 24/7 online ?
11:19 obo425 pff k a
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11:51 art Calinou: hi ;) with u i was talking 2 days ago about PM's ?
11:51 Calinou hi art, you're beautiful, but so expensive
11:55 art Calinou: so .. what it suppose to mean ? u dont remember, or what ? >.>
11:56 art sory my english is so perfect i u haven notice already ^_^
11:58 Calinou because you're named "art" :P
11:59 art hehe
11:59 art "art" dont have to be expensive :p
12:00 art any way ... i done some coding for minetest what i suppouse to do with it ?
12:01 art send it to who ?
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12:04 art sfan5: are u there ?
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12:25 obo425 no sfan5 is my cousin he is here
12:25 obo425 by me
12:26 VanessaE hi sfan, obo
12:39 obo425 hi
12:39 obo425 sfan is by me im from germany
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16:58 cy1 anyone with Windows mind trying to get http://gpg4win.org and copy over libgpgme*.dll and gpg.exe into the windows zip? That should be sufficient, barring fixable bugs, to get my PGP thing working on Windows. Might need gpgme.h too, to compile it... not sure if gpg4win packages that, but easy to get the source.
17:00 cy1 oh also gpg-agent.exe might be helpful to prevent password prompts... less secure though ofc
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17:53 cy1 how d'you even compile minetest on Windows anyway?
17:53 marktraceur cy1: I don't, but it should be interesting to watch emspri squirm while he tries it
17:54 cy1 marktraceur: well apparantly my week of adding pubkey authentication is worthless because there's nobody to compile it in windows :/
17:55 marktraceur Oh!
17:55 marktraceur Yeah, seems about right
18:10 cy1 lol
18:11 cy1 marktraceur: if you want to pull it it's fully backwards compatible
18:11 cy1 except one cosmetic thing but eh
18:11 cy1 I'm gonna test that statement on your server right now. :I
18:11 marktraceur cy1: I'd rather not :/
18:12 cy1 well, no worries then
18:17 cy1 marktraceur: nope, lots of jungle grass though
18:17 marktraceur cy1: As in, an entire block filled with it?
18:18 cy1 well, just my grove here.
18:18 cy1 but I need to fix a client bug, brb
18:19 cy1 u working on my nature mod?
18:19 marktraceur cy1: I worked on the nature pack, but only the flowers mod, so I could have farming
18:20 cy1 https://gitorious.org/minetest-cy/minetest-nature I mean
18:21 marktraceur cy1: No, I didn't touch that, got the files from ironzorg's post or bitbucket, can't remember which
18:21 cy1 meh...
18:21 cy1 well I'll pull from yours if it's good stuff. mine grows stuff in patterns though!
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18:29 ironzorg hmm ?
18:33 marktraceur Oh, ironzorg, you're here!
18:33 marktraceur I forked your flowers mod
18:33 MiJyn hi ironzog
18:33 MiJyn *ironzorg
18:33 ironzorg hello
18:38 marktraceur cy1: if you could take a look at my flowers mod and maybe the junglegrass one and let me know why entire blocks are filling with plants, that would be awesome
18:39 marktraceur My hunch is that ABMs fire en masse when a block is loaded, which is bad mmkay
18:39 marktraceur cy1: https://gitorious.org/marktr​aceur-minetest-mods/flowers, https://gitorious.org/marktrac​eur-minetest-mods/junglegrass
18:40 cy1 ABMs fire en masse when a block is loaded.
18:40 cy1 your "generation" function should actually map a sinusoidal choice between generation and destruction, depending on how much time has passed.
18:41 cy1 or just have a termination ABM with the same interval/chance as the generation one. which is what my growing mod does, ostensibly.
18:41 cy1 not as pretty as a sine wave, but less ABM firing, eh...
18:43 marktraceur Hm, K
18:43 marktraceur I'll do that when I return from groceries
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20:24 NakedFury why is this like this? local y_min = math.max(minp.y, height_min)
20:24 NakedFury local y_max = math.min(maxp.y, height_max)
20:26 cy1 NakedFury: perhaps to keep a maximum minimum height, and a minimum maximum height...
21:23 cy1 marktraceur: take a look at my nature mod. you can use "growing" to grow just about anything flowers, jungle grass, slimtrees, papyrus. That way we only have to fix "nature.growing" for everything to work better.
21:41 cy1 marktraceur: I'm not getting any media announcement from your server... is it working for you?
21:45 marktraceur cy1: Media announcement?
22:03 cy1 marktraceur: Yes it's one of the steps during startup. Tells my client to request media. Stays at 0% otherwise...
22:07 marktraceur Hm.
22:07 marktraceur I haven't had that problem
22:08 cy1 Let me try again.
22:09 marktraceur There you are!
22:23 VanessaE BAM!!
22:23 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=28399
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